I remember seeing in a few chapters seeing at least Edd or maybe Ed. One time was with Edd dealing with a bully and the next was all three of the Eds playing soccer.
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What you like about it, what you don't, how you discovered it, an what o think of the story.
Since recent developments are slow and a disappointment to a lot of people, I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on how GT could do better.
For me I’d fix the pace and have Chi never gone into the bar , as well as a reason for Jewel being in the comic as of now (since I read she’s Grim Jr and Mimi’s Kid)
Ok i KNOW I KNOW what the answer may be but there are so many cartoon crossover comics like Super Secret Crisis War! That comic is awsome! I just want to know if it'll be buyable soon Fam!
Seeing some renewed interest in GT as of late, especially around story elements that have seemed all but abandoned.
The latest twist, accomodating the Juniors Grandpa concept that flies in the face of established canon, reveals that Minnie could control the Nergal being all along. This utterly ignores what was previously shown in the storyline as well as the bulk of what GT Afterbirth is based around.
After Minnie gave up on her speech patterns out of nowhere, this shouldn’t be all too surprising. However, Grim tales keeps lacking behind PPGD in overall quality and attracts hordes of morons to its comments section whilst being seemingly influenced by people behind the scenes who have no interest in the story’s integrity beyond revolving it around their misguided characters and ideals.
Grim Tales is, like minimandy herself, a misguided zombie with no sense of direction or purpose that continues to baffle and disappoint. Let’s discuss
Here are some ideas for currently-running and future comic series by Bleedman that have been running around my head for a while:
For PPGD, what if the Diamonds from Steven Universe were the masterminds behind Vexus' machinations, which are all part of a plan to make Cluster Prime and the Gem Homeworld (which is referred to as Gemtopia; a word play on "gem" and "utopua") the dominant superpowers in the universe? However, it is later revealed that Vexus secretly manipulated them into colonizing inhabitated worlds, thus breaking the Diamonds' one rule in planetary colonization, centuries ago. Yellow Diamond destroys Vexus by overloading her with her electric energy in retaliation for the lies, thus spraking a war between Cluster Prime and Gemtopia with Earth caught in the middle. Fearing both regret for falling for such villainy and fear of "universal extinction", Blue Diamond turns to the heroes of Earth (the Powerpuffs, Dexter, the Crystal Gems, the original Ben 10 cannon version of Ben Tennyson, K.O. and friends, etc.) for help in stopping the world before they all go down.
For Grim Tales, what if Him and Oogie Boogie's schemes were actually the work of Black Hat from Villainous, who is also revealed to be Junior's biological father? Once Chi eventually arrives at Grimskull Castle, she finds Junior and Minnie in the middle of their duel. Confused as to why they would kill each other despite all that Demongo has told her about them, she attempts to intervene only for them to unintentionally release Black Hat from his prison within Mandy's collection. He then proceeds to spark a three-way jailbreak between the Phantom Zone, the Real/Extreme Ghostbusters' Containment Unit, and the Null Void. With the inmates as his new army, Black Hat declares war against Mandy for imprisoning him and (surprisingly) Him for being "nothing but a no-good double dealing huckster". With the entire Underworld on the line, Junior and Minnie put aside their differences and lead the "Underlords of Tomorrow" into saving their world from total annhilation.
Both of these comics are then preceeded by Snafu Forces, in which the PPGD universe and the Grim Tales universe are "abducted" by Lord Vortech and incorporated into a makeshift world called "Planet Chronopolis". While investigating the other regions, Junior, Minnie, Dexter, and the Powerpuffs encounter a host of familiar heroes and villains. During this period, Lapis Lazuli "gives birth" to a Ruby that is referred to using male pronouncs and dubbed "Brains" due to his gem being placed on his forehead. Unfortunately, the heroes unknowingly allow Vortech to destroy the Nexus Tree, which has been maintaining the time zones for the abducted areas. When they discover that a potential method to disable Vortech's defenses that currently exists outside Planet Chronopolis, the heroes (referring themselve as "the Fellowship of the Rift") attempt to retrieve the scattered fragments of the Nexus Tree while at the same time uncover the true origins of Brains: he is in actually a Phantom Gem, a type of Gem capable of warping time and space using virtual reality powers.
Once the Nexus Tree is reassembled months later, they are suddenly ambushed by Black Hat, who uses the tree to unleash a terrible new threat: Surt, the Master of Ragnarok and the Ghostbusters' most ruthless enemy. Despite the overwhelming odds, Lapis and Brains manage to inspire the citizens of Planet Chronopolis to fight back against the "big bads". During the battle between the villains the the inhabitnts of Planet Chronopolis, Black Hat is knocked into the Netherverse by Junior when he tries to save Mandy, something she later feels proud of and admits this to her children. Vortech attempts to have another Phantom Gem, Eyeball, drop a sun on the Fellowship. However, Brains manages to cancel the attack and weakens Eyeball long enough for Lapis to ultimately defeat the evil Ruby with a nasty punch.
Once Vortech is defeated, the villain is unmasked as an young adult version of Natalie, the apparent daughter of Ben and Enid that was concieved via teen sex. When Natalie was born, she possessed the combined powers of Ben and Enid's acestors. After being abandoned as a baby, she spent her life mastering her powers until she adopted the identity and powers of the original Vortech (the latter of which took place sometime following the events of Lego Dimensions). Natalie states that she has been what she is now becuase her parents never loved her, but Ben and Enid confess that abandoning her as a baby was the greatest mistake they ever made because they feared that all her powers could lead to disaster.
Realizing everything her parents feared as proven true through her villainy, Natalie decides to undo the damage she caused to the dimensions, allowing them to remain undisturbed. At the same, she creates alternate timelines of the dimensions in which her machinations are able to occur, thus limiting the amount of damage done to the space-time continuum. Having been witnessed by the TransTechs, they travel to Planet Chronopolis and propose that Planet Chronopolis could be repurposed as "Earth Beta", a replacement of the TransTechs' version of Earth that has been lost to them for eons. With the deal made and the planet's tranfer from Natalie's personal universe to the TransTechs' done, the Fellowship and their allies prepare for their new lives on Earth Beta.
I found a webcomic for a while where the protagonists are Grm Jr Minimandy: http://www.senji-comics.com/comic/left-below-chapter-1 Oh other Webcomics like this or similar?
So I pretty much cant stand chi if anyone wants to talk about then be my guest. And please no flames, not liking chi is a matter of opinion!
Chapter 10 was a chaotic mess and now Chapter 11 is here. To recap - lots of plot threads occurred in 10 with NO resolution and they cut away in the middle of a fight and dropped us back in the bar scene which began over a year ago and went nowhere at the time.
Chapter 11 is here folks. DISCUSS!!
Howdy folks!
A bit of a heads-up for everyone, since recent interest was generated in my scripts and former GT ideas before the current regime reversed a ten-tonne dump truck all over it. Well, believe it or not, there's still a comic out there that's making use of my work! And it's a former Snafu comic no less!
Yes, as you may have guessed, it's PSG-2 by those Otako Studio people. For those who don't know, their unofficial Panty and Stocking comic was once hosted on Snafu (and has pages dedicated to it here) before the administrator of that studio went way overboard with their administrative powers. Despite what they'd have you think, they were kicked off Snafu by the administration team, along with their comic.
Here's the thing - I used to work for Otako Studio. I was invited by a member of their team after they came to know my earlier Grim Tales work. There as a bit of public unease with my inclusion in my group and despite officially stating on places like DeviantART that I'd been let go, they kept me on in secret as they deemed me essential to their work. How nice.
I was on a page-by-page deal with them, so that I'd earn $10US for every page published using my script. I mainly focused on the second chapter of their stuttering comic, as they were otherwise stumped where to go and that was the only progress they'd made before I joined. However, soon enough shady business dealings with other internet users and groups began coming to light and affecting the Studio's public perception. This was mainly due to a separate member of the Studio, not the one who hired me (although closely associated with them), who was going by aliases and undercutting other contributors and all other manner of things I felt best not to delve into any further. But their Patreon donations were waning and public perception grew negative. So they began to take their issues out on me.
I was no longer being paid, despite my demands for such (was informed it'd be a ten-page bundle per pay packet, which was just stupid) and all the while my original recruiter began to insist on more and more scripts including a new chapter focusing on the Garterbelt character and taking on a James Bond-esque parody. 'For Your Ass Only', I was gonna call it. But I never ended up making it.
In February 2016 the studio member, most likely in a drunken state, demanded nudes of my then-fiance over Skype, I said no, deeming this highly unprofessional behaviour. After they'd sobered up, I demanded an apology and was refused. They instead wanted to lord it over me, claiming I was replaceable and other ridiculous assertions. I, as well as my fiance who'd recently joined the studio, quit on the spot. Otako went bonkers on Snafu with their admin rights trying to hide my departure (and my comments) but were ultimately kicked off the site. Good riddance.
HOWEVER now we find Otako hosting PSG on a different site, which I won't name, and they're STILL using my script word for word! This is after I left the studio some year and a half ago! Don't believe me? The following link is my Chapter 2 script in full, courtesy of my DA page -
Note the dates and completed state. For those following the comic on the other site, you'll see they're up to the moment wherein one of the characters charges up her destroyed weapon and turns it into a chainsaw. This particular event has not fully occurred in the comic but the next scheduled page, called "Revved Up" and already overdue on the site, indicates it'll follow my script accordingly.
Of course, given this is Otako Studio I've received no credit. No thanks. No payment for each and every one of the pages I've made for them. They inserted a chapter break in the comic as if to create an air of originality to it, but you'll likely observe that the script and comic are nearly identical.
So this is a cautionary tale - don't do business with people like these. I've already been stung by Snafu heads like Bleed and Fred. Now Otako leeches off my work and claims it their own. It's pitiful. I wonder if they'll adapt what little I made of the Garter chapter as well. Those going into business with art groups online, check their credentials. Don't be a fool like I was.
And moreover, if they DO screw you over, don't let them get away with it.
Grids out, y'all!
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What is everyone's opinion on this?
Athough I don't Ship Junior and Minnie. I do fine their relationship as brother and sister really cute. After everything happening in this comic now. I wondering how Minnie's new "view" will change anything in her relationship with her brother. I don't want them to a couple, but I also don't their relationship to end on a bad note. I hope Junior can get Minnie back to her normal. I wonder how this duel will end, espaiclly with the up coming war, Mimi's fate, and Chi's arival.
Who do u think could be Grim Juniors father?
And how do u think Mandy and Nergal Junior made Minnie?
If you read a lot of reviews from critics, Bleedman's comics often get criticized a whole lot. The critics praise the artwork but attack the story and its not that hard to see why. I personally enjoy Bleedman's stuff but even I have to admit there are plenty of writing errors in his stories. How do you think Powerpuff girls D could'v been better? What would you have done differently from Bleedman in order to make it a legitimately good webcomic?
Myself and an artist are making a PPGD spin off comic, me doing the writing and story and him doing the art.
I would like to have an editor on board if possible. Requirements are the person needs to fully understand and have a good grasp of the English language, have a good eye for any spelling or grammar mistakes, have free time and be somewhat flexible (Don't worry, I'm as strict as it's sounds, I know we all have lives, just need someone with reasonable free time), and someone who is competent and not stupid like, well, NEK is for instance.
So, if anyone's interested, just leave a message down below and we'll discuss more details. I can't wait to hear responses!
Also, if you haven't already, check out my buds Grids thread:
So, in case people don't know, the plan was at one stage to regain my old position of GT writer/editor and bring some polish back to the arguably lacklustre Grim Tales. Let's face it, since I left during the Mimi origin flashback arc, things have been well.... going downhill. I honestly believe GT is not sustainable as a comic at this point. The writing direction is ridiculous and inconsistent and the actual care for the product is nonexistent. It's very hard to see something I worked so hard on fall to pieces in such a way.
Well, the plans for me to rejoin have been officially nixed. It's a long and complicated story, with a lot of bumps in the road since I first launched my attempt in January 2016. Yes, it took THAT long to get this far. Certain people fought hard alongside me to try and get ahead, and many more were in favour of my return, but ultimately Bleedman said no. He's given multiple, inconsistent reasons (some of which are based on, or in themselves, total lies). He's also very selective about his view of our history, preferring to avoid working with a driven, opinionated and combative editor who will challenge his line of thinking if it gets out of hand (Chi in general, anyone?) and would prefer to stick with the diabolically inane yes-man he has running the show right now. The same guy driving this once-beloved story deep into the ground.
But it's not without its upsides.
BeeAre, who you may know as the PPGD editor and the only one who seems to know what he's doing with Bleedman stories anymore, fought to get an arrangement going wherein I would produce some test scripts to forward - via middleman - to Bleed for viewing and approval. BeeAre struggled hard to reach that arrangement and I performed my end of the bargain, as did said middleman. Bleedman himself let the process down. Nonetheless, I wish to share these scripts with you today.
A new character, Jewel, has appeared in the comic. Despite assurances from some that she'd be a key player in the story and change the very dynamic of Grim Tales itself (a grandiose claim to say the very VERY least), she's instead been relegated to joke character being fawned over by Chi and then abandoned mid-scene for the current Council plot. However, at the time I was being asked to make scripts she was front and centre. So these scripts revolve around a deeper involvement for her, and actually explain the purpose of her being there as well as add depth to herself, Chi and that Walker guy who ended up doing absolutely nothing.
http://www.filedropper.com/jeweltest
http://www.filedropper.com/walkerandchi
http://www.filedropper.com/jewelinthefuture
Please download these scripts and read at your discretion. As you can see, this brings the scene to a PROPER close that can then transition to the Council scene. The intention was for it to end the entire chapter, as it has dragged on for a LONG time now.
This was to place Jewel in a key position for later in the piece. I was then going to ask for permission to write further scripts for things like the Council and Junior's confrontation with Minnie. I had a LOT planned. But sadly, those too comfortable with how things have begun have resisted change and instead decreed to doom the story to the same slow death that's already consumed Sugarbits. As not only the original writer/editor for GT but also a reader myself, I'm saddened. I feel that anyone could forseeably do a better job than the current state. I believed my past experience merely improved my candidacy. But Bleed is a hard-set man. My wish to make that change has failed to come true.
I'm sorry everyone. I'm disappointed. Disappointed for the comic, for the Jewel character and for whatever promise of an improvement you may have expected. I'd like this discussion to be about what MIGHT have happened had things gone different. Hopefully the scripts are just a taste of what might have been.
But now we move on. With PPGD under present management, at least there's still something compelling to read out there.
Okay, the purpose of this post is to address and explain to people (And to a certain someone. Sorry bud, but I can't keep quiet about the problems this character has) the problems Jewel has brought, and will bring, to the comic of Grim Tales. I have some insider information from the creators of Jewel, and how they think she is going to be the fucking god send to the comic, when in fact her character has little to no impact to the comic as a whole!
First off, let's talk about the origins of Jewel for some background. She was created by Bleed and Numa, well, Numa comissioned her to Bleed, and now they somehow both co-own her (don't ask me how that works), who is suppoed to be the future daughter of Mimi and Grim Junior in a ruined future of the underworld if Him were to destroy it. There is some more information about here on this very wiki here, just search her name "Jewel" on this wiki and it should be the first result that comes up.
So, where should I begin? How about the fact that Mimi was meant to be infertile because of what Him did to her, but now, somehow in the future, she can produce kids all of the sudden. Jewel was meant to be a GT OC, and that's it, but now that's she in the comic, any original and unique ideas have to be changes around her existence. But that's not even the worst of it.
Let's talk about how she was introduced. This character is the spwan of two of the main characters, who are powerful in their own right, so you would think she would get some kind of powerful but mysterious introduction, right? Wrong, she's introduced as a damn waitress, giving food to another of the worst character in GT, Chi, who ogles Jewel because she looks like her fuckmate Mimi. Because that's what we need, more Chi showing how she "loves" girls, especially if they look like Mimi.
Did you know how Jewel got in the comic in the first place? Well apparently, Numa, Bleed's best butt buddy, a litter of kittens died and Bleed felt so bad for him he decided to stick in Jewel in the comic on the spot with no ryme or reason. Now you're thinking "Aww, that's so sweet! What's wrong with that?" What's wrong with it is Numa losing his cats is HIS problem, not the comics. Why should the comic suffer quality just because his animals died. (Unrelated Note: I've lost a dog before, had to put her down because she was sick, and was very sad about it, but I don't expect free stuff and favors just because of that. I love animals, I am an animal lover, but there is a time and a place to grieve, and it shouldn't affect a quality of work just because you lost an animal.) So I should ask Bleed to put a shitty character of mine into his comic because I lost a pet before, sounds fair, right? And it wasn't like Jewel was a short one page cameo either, she's a full fledged character in the comic. If it was a stupid cameo, I wouldn't be upset, but why is Jewel a full character in the comic? Now her complicated backstory and everything is included which means the story has to reform around HER now in a way. Besides, there are WAY better OC's in the comic that could be included in GT, or any Bleed comic. I mean, look at all of Grids OC's, like for example, Barasia. Full of character, reasonable backstory, and character depth. Hell, even this site's admin as a GT OC that would be a way better fit that Jewel.
Now, I want to talk about the impact Jewel has, or is going to have, in the comic according to Bleed and Numa. Numa claims the comic will now be forever changed simply because Jewel is in here now. Not because they got a writer better than NEK the dickless coward, but because Jewel has "powers" and her heritage of Grim Junior and Mimi will somehow change the face of the comic forever. Okay, GT was not built around Jewel. The story of GT involves many characters, places, dimensions, etc. Not just one character who was added on the spot with no forethought whatsoever. The story should not reform around a character that was included on a whim. See, this is what the creator thinks, that the story is now A-OK because this one character has shown up. Because of her, all the problems of GT has been fixed. And because of her, she'll change the future within the comics story because she is so important and blah blah blah! GT STILL suck ass! Nothings changed, except now we have a character that wasn't supposed to be in the comic at all in the first place! Now the story has to be changed because she's here in the comic. A story shoudn't be changed ultimately because of one character. GT has been going on for a decade now. It wasn't like the comic was made for her, was built for her arrival, was concieved for her existence. She WOULDN'T exist if the comic wasn't made in the first place! And this is what Bleed AND Numa do not understand.
Also, about Jewel's powers, one of the creators, Numa, said she has blood necromancy powers, which makes no sense, since if you're dead you have no blood. So it's just called blood manipulation powers, the power to, you know, control blood. Which seems kind of useless because 80% of the underworld population does not have blood. And Numa said this is also supposed to change the upcoming war somehow, like her powers are going to somehow make the ultimate difference just because she can control blood.
In fact, other than her name, Numa pretty much did not come up with anything about Jewel. I mean, he did some, but a lot of it got refined and corrected and fixed by none other than former GT writer, and the only true writer for GT, Griddles. He had to fit her backstory, powers, and pretty much everything about Jewel in order for her to fit into the GT story. In fact, also, Numa owns nothing of Jewel except for the name, Bleed pretty much owns her. Yes, they both co-owner, but the ownership is more like : Bleed 99.99% Numa 0.01%.
Oh, you're going to love this. Now that Jewel is in the comic, Bleed has been working on a "battle outfit" for her. Now Numa, one of Jewel's co-owners, claims Bleed wasn't going to make her look slutty, a thing Bleed is known for, making girls wear slutty clothes, so it's going to be okay, right? Right?
http://numa430.deviantart.com/art/Jewel-Progress-638484359
.....Well. Let's start with the obvious. No pants. On all three possbile designs. Like, why? Does she need to have no pants? And while one is a stupid ass typical maid outfit, the other two are sweaters with hoods, and Jewel is wearing some kind of skin thin leotard? Oh, and the sketch has been x-rayed so you can see her ass. Nice. She does not look slutty at all.....WHERE IS HER PANTS!? It's just, so typical and boring. It's an overused anime/manga cliche that's annoying and stupid at this point. Give her pants and a better outfit.
Sigh, are you beginning to see the frustrations of all this? The creators of Jewel are delusions and false gradures about her, conforming a decade old story around a character added on a whim and shouldn't be in the comic in the first place. The comic needs a better writer and needs to focus on SOOOOO many other characters and story arcs that need explaining, other than wasting time and energy on this not impotant character that did not need to be here in the first place!
Jewel is the perfect character for a shallow fan story of wish fulfilment, but in Grim Tales she is the worst thing to happen at the worst time.